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Posted - 2014.07.08 14:51:00 -
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Manfred Sideous wrote:So I am all for all out war but I cannot call what others want to do. I am the minority here most will want to make agreements so they have some reasonable measure of security... It's sad and makes me sad. And the reason you remain a part of this despised majority is - what? Why dont you quit PL, create your own alliance, call it Against ALL... ehm... Carebears, and wreck the havoc?
That's because it involves efforts and risks, and you're either too lazy or too scared (or both). Instead, you go for ranting on forums, starting a topic #723467529346 about "how to fix sov". The sov is fine.
Sov is fine, yes.
Sov mechanics is broken, indeed - but the sovereignity map itself represents the state of mind of nullsec population and is therefore fine. Most people are risk-averse, deal with it. Those who chose to fight - they have all kinds of tools for that. They have NPC nullsec to live in, they have blackops to hunt the renters and siphons to drain the moons (since recently). Those tools may be sub-optimal and require some balancing/revamping, but they are there.
You may say - oh no, it's not for me, it's just pathetic guerilla warfare, and I want all out, I want to welp yet another 59 titans. Well, those titans, I remember them... and what triggered that fight. It was a Halloween War, which started... let me remember... after Solar Fleet and Darkness of Despair formed a coalition. And who are those DD dudes? I guess those were some try-hards from Stain, who (in the beginning) were not even able to take a single R64 moon. That's how you create content, Manny.
And also obligatory - your tears are delicious. |

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Posted - 2014.07.15 07:06:00 -
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Manfred Sideous wrote:When you start seeing complete enemies unifying on a issue well **** is real. I can remember different things in the past that has brought us together culminating to the most visceral response "Monoclegate". So I think it's a great sign that we have people from all over Eve very interested very engaged and unified in our assertion that change HAS to happen. I can remember things too.
Manfred Sideous wrote:Yeah everyone is going to just disband and decide not to win. Mhmmm ok. If you're winning the game - then enjoy it. If you cant enjoy - then you're not winning. Ever thought of it?
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Posted - 2014.07.15 14:57:00 -
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Anthar Thebess wrote:Few PL people noticed that they don't have any real targets. They cannot attack CFC because of agreement. They cannot attack NC as this is their ally.
Most of the stuff in lowsec is dead. No content from contracts, as there is nothing more than NCPL and CFC. They are bored, especially when every thing is going to less content for them. Old core of PL simply want something more than frigate and interceptors brawls, yes they will hunt some super or few capitals in lowsec , but this is more like shooting from a tank to a sheep , not something that will be grate. Bravo! No more hypocrisy, in this thread we're discussing ways to please a few people from the alliance "Pandemic Legion". We're brainstorming ideas to give contents to them. To let them have some fun.
Do they deserve it? Indeed, they do. They are dedicated players and loyal customers. Do they deserve it more desperately than miners and mission runners? I dont think so. Seriously, how many FCs for mining fleets do you know? Are there FCs at all? Now grasp that feeling of frustration and imagine PVP were as engaging as mining. Dont get me wrong, mining is a fun activity to do time after time, but it severely lacks depth. Yet, a lot of people are doing that. And hell yes, they deserve a bit of attention of CCP developers.
Back to the topic. I'm all for having a vibrant nullsec with many alliances suggesting different options for players of different styles. But Manny. He has options already. And he choose to sign a NIP with goonswarm and to form a sizable coallition to support this NIP. His choice is peace. And brotherhood. Why should we or CCP (or whoever) interfere and force him to change that choice? |

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Posted - 2014.07.16 08:18:00 -
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Erutpar Ambient wrote:"winning not essential for having fun in sports" This is true.
Erutpar Ambient wrote:There is no correlation between winning and fun. This is not. "John is hay" doesnt mean "hay is John". Logics, use it.
Erutpar Ambient wrote:Currently the problem we have is that there are only 2 Coalitions (effectively) left. If this is a problem for you - why dont you join the third coallition? Or the forth? Or create a fifth? Or at least urge that someone should create it for you to join? Why the hell instead of doing something, you just go to forums and start ranting and whining. Oh CCP! Oh please! Break those dudes apart! That's just pathetic. And dishonest. Those dudes want to be together. They like each other. They enjoy flying back to back in one fleet. And you want to cruelly break that harmony with CCP's hands. Why?[/quote]
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Skia Aumer
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Posted - 2014.07.17 06:41:00 -
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Erutpar Ambient wrote:Skia Aumer wrote:Erutpar Ambient wrote:Currently the problem we have is that there are only 2 Coalitions (effectively) left. If this is a problem for you - why dont you join the third coallition? I explained why this is a problem in general, not just for me. But i guess you weren't able to comprehend it. Indeed, I cannot comprehend what is "problem in general". If this is the problem for you - go and do something about it. And by "something" I dont mean ranting. If it doesnt concern you - keep having a good time in EVE, why whould you bother?
Erutpar Ambient wrote:The truth is, there's no way for another coalition to be formed with the current mechanics. And I want to be a part of that impossible coalition, and laugh in the face of likes of you when we crush our enemies. That is a challenge, I know. But I like challenges, they are the reasons I play EVE. I dont want CCP to stand on my way. |

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Posted - 2014.07.20 18:34:00 -
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Erutpar Ambient wrote:This does concern me (as with a great many people) however, there is nothing any one person can actually do about it. Thus the problem is not of a personal nature, but is just a problem in general. What it would take to fix it is basically everyone agreeing not to coalesce into large groups. Which to a lot of those entities would put them at an extreme disadvantage. So that option is not viable. Does that make sense to you? It does not. Do you attend elections? According to your logics, elections are useless, because - and I quote - "there is nothing any one person can actually do about it".
Erutpar Ambient wrote:While i admire your zeal, it is unfortunately without impact on this issue. If you're character is any indication to your experience then it would appear your ignorance has gotten the best of you.
To be able to get to the point of being on part with the current 2 remaining coalitions, first you'd have to recruit, what? some 30,000 pilots/alts? Then you'd have to build up a force of Super Carriers and Titans if you want to be effective in the least. But in order to build those Supers you have to own Sovereignty in a system for long enough to be able to build those ships in the first place... No, I'm not posting with my main character here. And no, you dont need to own sov to get supers and titans. You can either buy them, or recruit players that already have those. And again no, you dont need gazilions of the big toys to win sov warfare. 2-3 ninja Nyxes can RF an IHUB in a timely manner. Thus even one small corp can be a PITA for the whole coalition. It can create timers and take systems if the blob choose not to respond. If they form up - oh well, try again. And again. And yet again. Time after time you'll see their fleets shrink. Who wants to rep that useless IHUB in a useless system in the middle of nowhere? And this is the time you bite.
Now I'm not telling you that sov mechanics is fine. It's ****. A large issue is a timezone warfare, for example. It's a common practice to set timers to 04:00 at night so that attackers have no chance to form a fleet. That trick was used extensively during the Hallowing War, and was among the major reasons why RUS block crumbled. But fixing it has nothing to do with jump drives, bridges and blue doughnuts. |

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Posted - 2014.07.20 19:15:00 -
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Anthar Thebess wrote:There is only one issue with your logic. EvE is game, it is not life. EVE is more than a game. Why do you think people like The Mittani play it? Not to shoot red crosses for sure, so why? Cause in EVE we have a huge social experiment and it's amazingly interesting to watch it evolves. And guess what? In merely several years we've managed to repeat the history of the mankind from the Age of Discovery to the present. Dont you see the analogy between the current real life political map and EVE sov map? The forum dosnt allow for RL political discussion, so I'm not going into details. But seriously, the two worlds have very much in common. And the thing is - if we keep this frightfully accurate model (which is EVE) running for some time more, we have a chance to look into the future if our RL world.
Call me a madman, but if there's a 1% chance this time machine will work, then it's worth trying. But if they change the rules, for the sake of "fun" or whatever, the precious model can get broken, and EVE turns into a mere game. |

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Posted - 2014.07.22 05:03:00 -
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Anthar Thebess wrote:But can you provide me something that will help me keep my friends in game. If there were 5-10 more of your friends, they could have killed a titan. |

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Posted - 2014.07.23 07:08:00 -
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Manfred Sideous wrote:A good PVPr could pay for there ships and buy GTC's from the isk they made from recovered loot. Today, even a bad PVPer can pay for his ships by merely cleaning a gate from NPCs. Risk free frig fights, yay! |

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Posted - 2014.07.23 12:34:00 -
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I'm so glad that this useless discussion has vanished. Rest in peace, Pandemic Legion. Literally. |

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Posted - 2014.07.24 05:03:00 -
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Fourteen Maken wrote:Nullsec is inaccessible to most players, and CCP keep making it worse by putting even more resources into the hands of those who make it their business to shut the rest of us out. What exactly is stopping you from entering nullsec? 1. Dont tell me you cant pass through gatecamps, and with those new anti-bubble captors it's cheaper than ever. 2. Dont tell me you cant dock, as there are gazilions of NPC stations in nullsec. Also, there are dockable stations in Provi. BTW, people in WHs dont even have docks at all, and I never see them whining about it. 3. Dont tell me you cant live in deep sov space either. You can set a POS, or - it you're space poor - anchor a depot. 4. Now if you're a lazy spoiled carebear, and want to dock in sov space with -1.0 sec.status and run anomalies all day long - then guess what? You can do that too! Just need to rent that system.
So again, what is your problem? This is EVE. This is nullsec. HTFU, and dont expect you'll get everything you desire on a silver platter. |

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Posted - 2014.07.24 06:04:00 -
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Erutpar Ambient wrote:Skia Aumer wrote:What exactly is stopping you from entering nullsec? I'm fairly certain he's talking about more than just sitting in null sec space in his ship or renting. No new entities can obtain sov in the current climate.
Yes we can. So tell me what are those things that you folks want to do in nullsec, exactly. Like: - I want to mine - I want to run anomalies - I want scan sites - I want to shoot people into the face - I want to shoot structures And after you write them, you'll see that in 90% cases you can already do it, right now. No intervention from CCP is required to allow you that. And the only obstacle is you laziness. |

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Posted - 2014.07.24 06:59:00 -
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Erutpar Ambient wrote:I want to own a piece of space. So basically you want to online a TCU, right? That, or you want to be recognized as a power to deal with?
About a couple of weeks ago I personally have "claimed" a system in nullsec. I didnt online a TCU there, mind you. But if carebears in that system wouldn't pay a rent to me, they will suffer consequences. And they know that, so they pay. You see the difference? When I want a piece of space - I go and take it. |

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Posted - 2014.07.24 07:12:00 -
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Rivr Luzade wrote:So you are proving his point that you cannot have space in Sov 00 without renting it?  :facepalm: That is me who gets money. I dont pay the rent, I take it. Oh, and I'm not a goon or n3. |

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Posted - 2014.07.24 12:08:00 -
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Fourteen Maken wrote:We'd like to go out there, set up in an empty system and build something for ourselves Could you explain, what is the exact obstacle that prevents you from doing this? I seriously dont understand that. I am not a part of CFC or N3, nor do I pay the rent, yet I live in nullsec. Why cannot you do the same? |

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Posted - 2014.07.24 17:40:00 -
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Fourteen Maken wrote:Skia Aumer wrote:Fourteen Maken wrote:We'd like to go out there, set up in an empty system and build something for ourselves Could you explain, what is the exact obstacle that prevents you from doing this? I seriously dont understand that. I am not a part of CFC or N3, nor do I pay the rent, yet I live in nullsec. Why cannot you do the same? Anyone can go to null any time they want, but what do they do when they get there? Take a look around you, look at the state of null there's nothing happening out there it's just a big isk farm with nothing for people like me to do except grind for slum lords. I'd rather live in low sec where everything is up for grabs instead of being tied up by a few elitist scumbags who give nothing back. A few messages ago you wanted to settle a system and build something for yourself, now you changed your mind obviously, so my question repeats - what exactly do you want to do in nullsec? Those slum lords - they prevent you from doing what?
As for the elitist scumbags... if you hate them so much, why dont you kill them? |

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Posted - 2014.07.24 18:20:00 -
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NPC null
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Posted - 2014.07.24 18:37:00 -
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And building own house involves exactly what? Please unroll your metaphor back to EVE. Also, it's still better to live in in apartment complex and work your way to the house of your dream, rather than sit at a city square and shout "government! give me a house! now! or else! I'll commit a suicide!" |

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Posted - 2014.07.25 05:58:00 -
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Rivr Luzade wrote:So you are not living in that 00 sec, you demand rent from Sov 00 holders and henceforth Eruptar's point stands: You either need to be part of a big blob, or you rent to live in Sov 00 sec.
How about you try to live in Sov 00 without being part of their gang for a change to see how your statement works out? My face and my palm will accrete soon. I store my ships in NPC station. I fly them anywhere, including sov null. If I have something to do in the systems I visit, then I stay there and do whatever I want. Sometimes I mine in sov null, for example. I run anomalies once in a while. I dont scan relics, by my mates do that a lot. We roam and we do blackops. We play moon warfare. So yeah, I live there.
That example with carebears paying the rent to me - was to show you that you dont need to set up TCU in order to control the system. And thus you dont need a blob of supers. Just go down there and take whatever you want. You will have to fight of course, but that is a kind of fight that even a solo player can stand.
Folks, you are misled by the original poster. He's trying to convince you that you cannot fight back. I'm telling you - yes you can! How? 1. Choose on of two coallitions you hate most. 2. Go to their backyard. 3. Start harassing their renters. Set siphons. 4. Soon you will find that you're not alone. Other players fight for the same goal. Make friends with them. 5. Proceed to reinforcing enemy POSes. Dont expect you will take them down instantly. 6. Advertise yourself. More people will join you to have a chance to punish the blob. 7. One day, when stars align right and you take down that damn POS that was reinforced for 100 times in a row, you will understand - you are the power. Now sky's the limit. 8. ??? 9. PROFIT! |

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Posted - 2014.07.25 06:02:00 -
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Or, stay here and go on with that "eve is dying" BS. |

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Posted - 2014.07.28 04:56:00 -
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Doris VanGit wrote:As the current game stands, i dont want to go into null sec and become a sheep. Why dont you go to nullsec and become a tiger?
Doris VanGit wrote:However, make the changes so that if i get a few or 20 say mates along in dreads, we could take control of a system in 10 minutes. How by having one module that controls the system. If you have 20 blackops, you can take control over a region, right now. Do you really need that module to anchor? Your own TCU gives you some benefits, but it's seriously overrated. Gaining control via guerilla warfare is absolutely possible, it gives you fun fights without TIDI, it gives you profit in form of a rent or tears, and it is generally 20% cooler. |

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Posted - 2014.07.28 05:21:00 -
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On the other site, you can find an article devoted to power projection myths. It argues that Titans, Dreads, also have a jumpdrive, do not seem to be responsible for so-called "nullsec stagnation". That is because they are pretty weak against sub-caps and at the same time can be killed by sub-caps. Further, it suggests that what we're dealing with here is merely another case of overpowered ship doctrine - slowcats. Cases of overpowered ships happened a lot of times in EVE: drakes, hurricanes, tracking titans, motherships with drones - to name a few. A fact that capital and supercapital ships did not undergo a balancing pass by Fozzie, adds a strong argument for the hypothesis put forward by The Mittani.
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Posted - 2014.07.29 09:18:00 -
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Wrecktum Yourday wrote:You should never be safe in eve. Then why do you choose safety? This is you who are responsible for +1 to the meat shield guarding one of the coalitions. And if you're fine with that - why should others suffer being unsafe? |

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Posted - 2014.08.04 07:05:00 -
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Caerbanog Walace wrote:- Ownership of space is based on active defence of the space There is an issues with that approach. Now, when you have taken some space - you feel like you accomplished a great work. If "active ownership" comes real, you will take space only to see that you're stuck with full-time job of maintaining and defending that space. That could be very disappointing to discover. Or it could be not, but are you sure CCP should risk that much? |

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Posted - 2014.08.04 07:06:00 -
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Wrecktum Yourday wrote:Skia Aumer wrote:Wrecktum Yourday wrote:You should never be safe in eve. Then why do you choose safety? This is you who are responsible for +1 to the meat shield guarding one of the coalitions. And if you're fine with that - why should others suffer being unsafe? Not sure what you mean but you can find me flying around black rise with my Corp. The way I play eve is far from safe. "Cult of War" is a part of N3, that is what I mean. |

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Posted - 2014.08.04 07:12:00 -
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Thomas Harding wrote:Right. With current state on null, going there and becoming apex predator is, well, quite unrealistic. Countering an opponent with much stronger army is quite realistinc in the real world. That is accomplished via guerilla war and terror.
Now when you have a clue, get in a Blackops and go for it. Or you prefer to stay here and keep ranting on a forum? |

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Posted - 2014.08.04 09:20:00 -
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Anthar Thebess wrote:COW is more than part of N3. Some of the core COW members have alts in NC , or some of the NC members have alts in COW.
This is not off topic, but illustrates reason why COW have space in first place.
Look at situation of East India , they had internal issues - the moment they become unapproved by NC was the same moment they lost their space.
Suggestions here are meant allow smaller alliances to have small part of space without being dependent from bigger entity. Whatever reasonable sov system you suggest, there always will be a chance that a bigger entity will come and crush you. So basically it boils down to - what threshold of risk smaller alliances can endure? You say, that if we change sov system according to 1), 2) and 3) - then the threshold would be low enough. Pet alliances would rebel and start wars against their masters. I say - maybe, for the first time, yes. But after that ripple settles down, we'll find out the same blue doughnut. Because risks will be minimized, and people will call it "winning EVE" again.
The only way to "fix" nullsec is to explain people that they sould HTFU. But dont get me wrong, I'm pretty sure that it's close to impossible. |

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Posted - 2014.08.04 14:52:00 -
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Thomas Harding wrote:Skia Aumer wrote:Now when you have a clue, get in a Blackops and go for it. Or you prefer to stay here and keep ranting on a forum? After you, Sir. Let me know when you have actually killed someone. Sent you the eve-mail with my other alts' killboards. Not sure why you need it, but wasnt hard for me. |

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Posted - 2014.08.06 09:21:00 -
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The discussion has degraded to just throwing random ideas. Folks, before you change something - you set the goals for that change. Only after that it's reasonable to discuss any feats and perks that you suggest to see if they can accomplish the goals. You dont jump out and shout "my idea will change EVERYTHING, and for good of course!"
So what is your goal? - To have more fights? Alright, but no changes needed. Join FW and you have them. - Assist people to build their own homes? Then you should explain exactly why a hostile TCU prevents them from doing it. - Want more engaging industry? (Yes, that was mentioned in the OP among the other things.) Hell yeah, let's change mining first! Or what? |

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Posted - 2014.08.11 09:51:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Residency based sov. Let's say after tomorrow downtime we'll log in to see this sov model. What would it change? Nothing. Renters that live in nullsec will keep farming as they do now. Neutrals in local? POS up! Structures under attack? Batphone! Paying rent? Sure they will, because steamrolling will always be a thing, unless you turn supers into useless coffins. |

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Posted - 2014.08.11 12:30:00 -
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Tchulen wrote:Skia Aumer wrote:...because steamrolling will always be a thing, unless you turn supers into useless coffins. Unless there is a usable counter to supers which isn't more supers. So basically we need to nerf supers anyway, regardless of the sov mechanics? Let's talk about this then, not some shiny ideas from the top of one's head regarding occupancy sov.
In EVE we have some postulates, among them: - rock-scissors-paper rule; - risk-reward rule.
The apex force (tm) does not fit them both, because: 1. There is indeed no asymmetric counter. Titans are not an asymmetric counter, they are a "higher tier" counter, from the epoch of tier-based EVE. Furthermore, titans are not a counter at all, because as soon as they show up in grid, they become targets instead. The fight in B-R5 prooves that: titans died, motherships and carriers were left intact... mostly. 2. The larger fleet you field, the more risk you pose yourself to. But when you hit a certain threshold, say about 100 carriers and 50 moms, your fleet cannot be destroyed at all. With that fleet, you can accomplish huge goals (have great rewards) while having no risk.
Now that is a problem. And it should be fixed. |

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Posted - 2014.08.11 13:20:00 -
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Anthar Thebess wrote:Moon mining have to be changed to active. You might have missed a patch when they introduced siphons. And to prove my point, the "occupancy sov" is not working when it comes to moons. Renters choose to avoid risks and dont plant siphons on their landlords' moons. They could use neutral alts, but it's too risky, dont you see? So it's not the mechanics that formed the blue doughnut, it's human nature. |

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Posted - 2014.08.12 08:08:00 -
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Kira Hizu wrote:Topic Moon GOOOO Moon goo changes are needed? Why? Because we live in none passive game and we would like no more AFK empires. Moon goo changes are live, please log in and find and item called "Small Mobile Siphon Unit". Anchor it to your nearest R64 moon and purge that passive AFK player from our beloved EVE! |

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Posted - 2014.08.12 15:16:00 -
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Athryn Bellee wrote:Skia Aumer wrote:Kira Hizu wrote:Topic Moon GOOOO Moon goo changes are needed? Why? Because we live in none passive game and we would like no more AFK empires. Moon goo changes are live, please log in and find and item called "Small Mobile Siphon Unit". Anchor it to your nearest R64 moon and purge that passive AFK player from our beloved EVE! Except you have to return nearly every day to empty the siphon and they are pretty easy for the POS owner to kill whenever they come by to refuel or just to check on the starbase. That was exactly what he wanted. It's neither passive nor AFK gameplay. |
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